Deficient Designated Pilot Examiner Dilemma

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FAA determined that work of DPE deficient

Requiring the pilots to be reexamined

Annoying, necessary, but avoidable?


A Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE) administered practical tests, somehow deficient (His DPE was not valid? His tests did not meet standards? He signed off without performing the tests? Or whatever?) for 10 years. During that period of undetected deficiency(ies), pilots received qualifications for which there was inadequate proof.

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Whatever the cause, there are pilots who are flying with less-than-legal qualifications, likely through no fault of their own. AOPA, see below, has complained that this “dragnet” of Puehler pilots is an undue burden on their members.

One way to start the process to get your practical by checking with your FSDO. The staff should be aware of the status of local DPEs. While they cannot recommend an individual, an ASI should be able to provide a list of the designees with whom they are familiar. If a fellow pilot has suggested to you a specific DPE, again try the FAA GA team or you can use the FAA’s designee locator:

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The Puehler problem may be traced to tendency of pilots post testing to NOT report that their DPE failed to provide proper training/testing. The FAA established a dedicated Designee Questions Email address. If you have concerns that you feel uncomfortable sharing with your local FAA office, they can be shared directly with the national designee oversight team at

The FAA actively monitors training and testing trends, survey data, and data points in multiple systems to include but not limited to the IACRA and DMS systems. These data metrics provide feedback from which the FAA evaluates the need for further oversight of Designees when there is concern that they are not doing their work in accordance with prescribed procedures. When it is determined that this is the case, a notice, like this one, may be the result.dpe and student with license









July 30, 2020

By Dan Namowitz

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The FAA plans to reexamine pilots and flight instructors who took practical tests between 2008 and 2019 from an FAA inspector and examiner whose work was called into question following an investigation.

Several hundred pilots may be affected by the decision to reexamine airmen who took practical tests from Michael A. Puehler of Cincinnati. The FAA said the action was needed to “ensure that these individuals meet the standards” to hold their certificates and ratings.

AOPA believes such action should only be required in the most egregious of cases, said Christopher Cooper, AOPA director of regulatory affairs.

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He noted that the case has surfaced at a time when the FAA’s complete designated pilot examiner examining system has been undergoing a systemwide review.

Notice re Puehler

Some insights into the FAA’s concerns about Puehler surfaced in a policy document the FAA sent to its aviation safety inspectors on July 15. The document included a draft letter to be sent from the FAA’s flight standards district offices (FSDOs) to the pilots identified as subject to reexamination, notifying them of the Puehler inquiry and noting that based on that investigation, the FAA has reason to believe that Mr. Puehler issued certificates and/or ratings to airmen when the airmen did not demonstrate the qualifications to hold the certificate and/or rating for which they were tested. Thus, the competence of the airmen tested by Mr. Puehler during that time period is in question, and reexamination of the airmen’s qualifications to hold their certificates and/or ratings is necessary in the interest of safety.”

The letter requests that recipients “call or appear at this office or a Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) more conveniently located near [them] within 10 days of receipt of this letter, to make an appointment for a reexamination.”

Failure to respond to the letter would result in certificate suspension.

Not all pilots who took a checkride from Puehler between October 2008 and December 2019 must be reexamined. According to the policy document, some exemptions apply in cases of pilots who, after having received certificates or ratings from Mr. Puehler, were “subsequently tested and received, from another Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE) or FAA inspector, a higher-level U.S. certificate or rating in the same category and class as that previously issued by Mr. Puehler.”

FAA reexamination requests are typically upheld as long as the FAA can demonstrate a “reasonable basis” for the request, but each case is unique. Pilots who have legal questions about a 709 reexamination are encouraged to contact the AOPA Legal Services Plan or an experienced aviation attorney.

The reexams are for real

The FAA does not charge a fee for the so-called 709 rides—a reference to the FAA’s authority to reexamine pilots under Title 49 of the U.S. Code § 44709—but pilots may incur costs of providing “an appropriate, airworthy aircraft,” which will be inspected prior to flight, and taking any flight instruction needed before undergoing the examination.

“AOPA urges all pilots being reexamined to take this test seriously,” Cooper said. “This is a full reexam of your piloting privileges. Be prepared, practice, study, because you will be expected to meet” ACS/PTS standards (airman certification standards/practical test standards).

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AOPA emailed Puehler to ask for his response to the FAA’s action but has not received a reply. A LinkedIn profile for “Mike Puehler,” which has since been taken down, listed extensive aviation experience as a flight instructor, as an assistant chief flight instructor for a Part 141 flight school, as a university aviation instructor, and as a collegiate flight team coach.

The site lists FAA experience for Puehler including several years as a DPE and 11 years as a principal operations inspector for the Cincinnati FSDO’s general aviation unit, where his duties were said to include conducting “oversight of Designated Pilot Examiners,” investigating aircraft accidents, and ensuring compliance with the FARs.

As the Puehler probe continues, AOPA takes the position that the FAA should only resort to widespread 709 reexaminations under the most egregious circumstances—and the current case is not the first instance of the agency embarking on such a course. In 2013 AOPA reported urging the FAA to justify ordering a large number of reexamination flights in an investigation of a complaint lodged against a DPE in the Northeast who the agency said was conducting practical tests contrary to the appropriate standards. The FAA also took action in a 2012 investigation involving the activities of a DPE operating in the Las Vegas area.

Dan Namowitz

Associate Editor Web

Associate Editor Web Dan Namowitz has been writing for AOPA in a variety of capacities since 1991. He has been a flight instructor since 1990 and is a 30-year AOPA member.


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1 Comment on "Deficient Designated Pilot Examiner Dilemma"

  1. Dennis Piotrowski | August 21, 2020 at 12:22 pm | Reply

    The other side; there are.DPE’s out there that purposely fail a person (a woman) just because. I know of one who is a Arrogant Doctor Who has an aerobatics rating and thinks everybody should be able to perform at his level. One thing under his standard, FAIL. This is equally Wrong!

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